Well, maybe, but dont most abusers have a history of childhood abuse themselves? We have no moon aspects will this help? I am looking to add 5 more aspects and would love your opinions! Thats weird. Im not meaning to argue if it sounds like it, its just damaging for ignorant people to come find posts saying that bad asteroids are always going to play out no matter what they do because that leads them to believe that everything in astrology is linear and has only a small set of possibilities that people cannot escape. That would be my guess. Since both Eros and Lilith are isolated energies buried deep in the unconcious, the erotic transformation which takes place upon their meeting is deep with raw and intuitive spiritual potency. I think there are very few people who actually manage to overcome childhood abuse, and not without a long painful journey and negative experiences. The ex that abused me while I was pregnant had his Nessus conjunct my MC. If I had read this as a 14-16 year old, I wouldve been waiting everyday for my mother to start emotionally, mentally, or physically abusing me, and it would have put me in a constant state of fear because I didnt know much about astrology or how complex and fluid it is. We need to look at the whole chart to see the whole story. What about this aspects? A later relationship was abusive (a psychopath) His Nessus square my Sun Have you tried? If you have a dominant Dejanira, you will be a victim. Am I right? Your email address will not be published. Ive never seen the Descendant explained so clearly or succinctly before. Your passions are overwhelming, spontaneous, and you develop your attractions without even thinking about it. However, if you have Nessus/Dejanira and Mars/Uranus, particularly in hard aspect( opposition and square), it may make for dark spice, shall we say. Thank you Ivs. Try to post the charts so see a visual! His ascendant is at 24 Virgo and has 0 Virgo in his 12th house. That Pluto/DSC has been a source of confusion and frustration for me for a while, but now it makes sense. The Five Darkest, Sexual Aspects in Synastry. Who is whom? Free Horoscopes charts, calculations Birth Natal Chart Online Calculator Ascendant, Rising Sign Calculator Astro Portrait: Sun, Moon, ASC Personal Daily Horoscope Transit Chart Calculator Secondary Progressions Solar Arc, Solar Return, Prognoses Synastry, Composite, Davison Chart Traditional Astrology Calculator Sidereal Astrology Calculator Draconic Astrology Calculator Various astrology . Just from reading this, I think it looks very good but I really need to see the wheel as it is easier. Moon oppose Pluto and Moon square Pluto could tend to be dark because they are powerful and not with a harmonious flow. You do not have to do their chart. But I always have the feeling that people want to abuse/fool me in one way or another and they get surprised when I respond, I constantly need to stand up for myself in any sort of situation, from the cashier in the shop to colleagues at work. No worries. If you do not have either of these in the natal but have them in synastry, it will play out the same way. 1) What would it mean when my nessus conjuncts his nessus? Nessus conj the NN in synastry would make me RUN and fast lol. We have our arguments and I sometimes feel put down by him (and, to be fair, he feels the same way about me) and sometimes my self-esteem suffers. A Sun conjunct Lilith transit highlights the power traits like charisma, magnetism, emotional force and leadership qualities of the Sun. I dont pay that much attention to Deja conj another asteroid. The charts tell all. I write the truth not to placate people but because the truth is the only thing that heals. Thank you =). How do we honor Lilith in our lives? It seems like the man of your childhood dreams walked out of the ether into your life like the larger than life heroes on the movie screens. Uranus is kink, so you do the math. Thats your opinion. Lovely, Lo! If anything, Ive suffered abuse from others at times. . I always seem to have the opinion that these people are somewhat evil yet gullible and innocent and therefore they deserve to be abused. They play out to have a certain pattern to the relationship. Lilith Synastry Sun and Lilith conjunct in the synastry chart When Sun person's Sun and Lilith person's Lilith combine, each person awakens the deep desire for individuality and creativity in each other. Pluto conjunct Sun synastry indicates a powerful and transformative relationship. Can you relate to it or are just worried in general lol. I have some extreme aspects and I shudder to think how they would be expressed had I not had saturn at the top of my chart who keeps things in check via a grand trine involving some big bad planets. As long as we kept connecting the way we had been sexually, I was willing to "fight" for what I thought we had and felt I could withstand anything. Two celestial bodies are in conjunction when they are very close to each other, often in the same sign but never more than 8 degrees apart. Lilith Conjunct Ascendant Synastry Sun Conjunct Lilith Synastry This connection will burn as hot as the sun! YES, your Deja conj his NN will make you his victim, to put it really directly. Ami, hello. vertex conjunct moon and ascendant in scorpio can make it dark too? The first would be Nessus. Nessus conjuncts BML, and Dejanira conjuncts DSC and Pluto. And how would his Saturn conjunct her dejanira play out? Do you know what these aspects could mean? Lilith conjunct Ascendant Eros in a synastry chart. The conjunction is especially strong, but the trine, square, and opposition can also indicate a past life connection or marriage. as well as to the signs and houses. We have moons in conjunction in gemini; His venus and mars are in conjunction with my venus in Aquarius. This only works with a synastry chart, and (as always) is simply my own opinion! Do you think the way it plays out ties into whatever our attitudes toward Eros/Lilith themes (erotic transformation, primal urges, etc) were to begin with? You say that you want a nuclear passionate relationship. I wasnt abused as a child in any way. I am not mad, I am correcting you for instilling fear in people with your claim to truth. Eros and Psyche were mythical lovers, and were brought together by fate. It's been suggested that an understanding of someone's natal Eros gives you the keys to unlock their erotic desires. Chiron conjunct sun. His makes two major squares to her inner planets. Priapus is likewise called a "minor rustic God" or even "an oversexed gardening God." Does the man walk up to you and tell you that he wants to abuse you because you seem like the perfect victim? I seem to be one of the rare people doing it lol. There is no superficial way to get to know Lilith through the experience of the erotic. They often indicate a desire to sexually conquer/arouse one another. In other words, if a mans Nessus conjuncts your ASC, he will abuse you, in my opinion. its more like the astrology helps me to fill in the pictures. 2) I just looked for the child asteroid and it is on 28 Capricorn, conjuct with my venus 1 Aquarius. Positive aspects speak to a generally happy marriage, but there is still karma to be worked out now. I often am able to get away in time, and at other times I can get away only to a certain degree. Coming from a standpoint of being an archaeologist, we can interpret and theorize things ourselves all we want, but an archaeologist telling a crowd of people that their own interpretation of the past is the TRUTH would not only be incredibly wrong, but it would also be detrimental to people that no nothing about interpreting and analyzing archaeological sites, therefore they would take that persons word even though it is not truth. my sun in exact opposition to his pluto (I have this aspect in the natal chart) and my pluto in conjunction with his sun in an orb of 7 even far he can feel it? That being said, the charts WILL play out, imo and ime. Ive only been studying astrology casually for 5 years, so even though I know the basic interpretation of those planets in contact, Id still love to hear it from a pro love your blog! My sun and deja are on his nn. Could you specify what you mean by abuse (subtle, verbal, violent etc.?)? Those interpretations CAN happen, but they are not destined to. What does that mean? Always leaving them in a fog of confusion, along with lies, victim playing and guilt trips. You are so welcome, Britt and thanks so much for telling me that you like it. I was thinking that maybe one of the lesser factors could be moon/mars contacts? I've never experienced it myself, but have read that Lilith/Pluto contacts are also intensely sexual and even violent (particularly the opposition). Planets and asteroids will be modified when they aspect each other, this the possibilities are endless. I have no vested interest in any asteroid or any placement being any way other than my being able to help people. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a, Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 I am Sag with rising capricorn and he is Capricorn w/rising Sag. It is sad! I think most people of the same time period would have it though, so it is not that big of a deal, I think. It sounds really bad I guess, but this person has given me so much positivity and encouragement and I feel has set me on a positive path. I was shocked to see it in this couples charts. I am curious about the dejanira/nessus aspects. He may abuse her and it would be seen publicly. Lilith on the ic is one of the more potent lilith synastry to have even in the composite. I have my nessus conjunct with my true node. If it feels too, too good to be true, it often is. Nonetheless, your interpretation of dejanira and nessus is intriguing. And my pluto trine his sun and venus..xxx, Mars sq Pluto can be violence and/or violent/strong passions. It doesnt always make for the easiest of relationships, because both people come into the marriage with the weights of the past life issues, but it definitely has staying power. It may be off a few minutes and change things. Having a planet you have on your 7th house falling on their 1st house and a planet in your 1st house falling on their 7th house and vice-versa which would create an opposite between the two planets in the synastry chart. Lilith desires sacred sex above all things. How about choose one aspect and I will try to help, T. Not to be rude, but this is incredibly fatalistic. To make it simple for those of you who are on the same path, Ive rounded up the top 5 placements that indicate a past life marriage. A conjunction is the strongest, but most aspects indicate some type of marriage. You don't need to BELIEVE in Jesus to come here and/or to contact me. Currently you have JavaScript disabled. Isis Conjunct the Vertex. This is a difficult aspect, but the couple often meets in this life to try and heal the wound. I have very wide-orbed Eros-Lilith contacts (not conjunctions) in my two last relationships (they are Eros, I'm Lilith), but both relationships were so 8th house-oriented and Plutonian that it's hard to tell where Lilith comes in. Moon conjunct Pluto is the strongest of the Moon/Pluto aspects because the conjunction trumps any other aspect in strength. the Moons will make for best friends. Many people say they have overcome things but I watch their actions and see they are lying. Sometimes I nurture sometimes he does. Yet despite this fearsome reputation she was often dismissed as " a minor Babylonian wind deity " or similar. Can this aspect be calmed down by a Mars conjunct Saturn contact? It is not pretty at all. I dont do the Draconic. Now, we come to things that could really make the relationship dark. This ascendant descendant conjunction alone does a very interesting thing in the chart. or you consider just the closer orbit? what would the double wammy of sun and pluto look like? Yeah, the They may not be able to see what you are up and you could use this for your gain fits perfectly. With asteroids, one must be an intrepid explorer because there is precious little PRACTICAL info out there. In fact, it is the opposite. Would the aspects to the venus offset the negativity that the Dejanira implies? xx, haha you are so cute, I like you and you write very simple and easy to understand. As one of the four largest asteroids (along with Vesta, Pallas, and Juno), Ceres is usually analyzed in the birth chart. Her theme is power-alluring and irresistible. There is NO way this will work out well, in my opinion. I'm so cappy Knowflake . Before I leave this subject, I will add my theory. My jupiter conjunct his sun and venus. Im 30 with a mother that is 32 years older than myself and have never experienced any abuse, and Ive been alive and around my mother long enough to experience it. I am so intrigued!!! Maybe, maybe not. 10. . Do you have any advice for me? She is raw sexuality which will not be dark if it touches Venus imo and Welcome , what if I have my Lilith conjunct his juno and his venus. Ami is an insightful astrology. It took me a minute to think about the wounded bird types, but I think you might be right. And when you really think about it this line of thought deserve to be abused is quite sociopathic in nature. My DEJA in home 6 in opposition to your NESUS in my house 12 to 10 degrees from my ascendant. Thank you Ariel! Eros is a spicy little asteroid who generates excitement in relationship astrology. My first husband was abusive His Nessus conjunct my Descendant Think sitting next to a roaring fire. The Basic House Rulers23 Simple Steps for Beginners. Thank you for your reply. Copyright [the-year] [site-link] | This website is intended for entertainment purposes only. Lets hope more info comes out about this connection.:). They are deceiving themselves, would be a better way to say it. Is this a synastry, Ariel? As such, I would be careful and watchful. Lol just noticed what you wrote at the end about Mars/Uranus, sorry! This aspect can bring intense emotions, profound personal growth, and the potential for both positive and negative experiences. Things dont come out until marriage, sometimes. Opposition AC / Moon and trigone mars and saturne. I also have Nessus in 22 Virgo exactly opposite my Sun, conjunct my Asc in 18 Virgo, and I am NOT an abuser, unless its in self defense.Either way, I dont enjoy hurting people. with Dejanira conjunct his natal Saturn, Mars. Making people fear being in relationships over tiny aspects that do not have an incredibly high chance of playing out is not healing to others. It makes me feel very crazy. Hmm Hi! Eros in Synastry seems appropriate to discuss for this time of year. Fortuna Conjunct the Vertex. I have not seen it fail in all of my chart work. When someone's planet touches our natal Eros in synastry, it is as if we have been stuck by Cupid's arrow. You are not an astrology god that holds the key to the entire truth. My nessus is separated from my true node by 7 in cncer and in exact opposition to my venus. That is my commitment to my readers. In the rare instance where these two do meet, the results are truly awe inspiring . I guess ill post mine and then our synastry chart. Juno aspecting the South Node simply means that the pair was married (in some way) in a past life, or had a longterm marriage-like relationship. I have moon opposition pluto. I love you and hope you write to me to say hello or to ask questions. At the end of the day, that is all this god and goddess really ask for.". Eros conjunction sun and lucky point.. and mercury, uranus, pluto and venus in house seven, libra. The Fortuna would, likely, bring good fortune to the vertex person, likely in the arena of money. Sorry, lol. Is it relevant? I am the nessus person and I admit to having some devious tendencies towards anyone with neptune in that position. How fortunate we are to have such a wonderful body of info to help us! "In Greek art Eros was depicted as a winged youth, slight but beautiful, often with eyes covered to symbolize the blindness of love. I'm still not even sure if Eros/Lilith contacts are positive or negative? I was sexually abused in my home by a family member. . Our mars are square (aquarius:leo) also. We are mesmerized, enchanted, and even obsessed with this person. His abuse asteroid on her midheaven would be her reputation and career, right? Keep an eye on anyone who is near her. Lets see. His Amor is in trine and sextile to a few of her inner planets. I wouldnt think my mars/Pluto semisextile is as strong though it can do damage. It is very, very powerful. I also have moon trine neptune, venus conjunction chiron snd more aspects to do with empathy. My dejanira is in opposition to his sun and without any other aspects. I am sorry! M. % would be more ambient but felt imo Maria dear. This transit is positive as well as painful, destructive and revelatory. Hey there! It "wakes up those areas inside of us and causes us to express them sexually, free from the restrictions of reality. To me, it always is. If someone does not want to accept the truth, that is their choice, but I, personally, will not do their chart. There are no planets conjunct or square either Nessue or Dejanira in either chart, the only conjunction is her Dejanira to his Nessus. Thank you again. Not sure which one id prefer. It does indicate that both partners knew each other in a past life, but other romantic aspects are needed in the chart to create an energy strong enough for a marriage. Deja conj ASC may make for victimization as you fo through life, I am not able to do more. If your Dejanira conjuncts his ASC, Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars, Venus or NN, you will be his victim. You interpret things based off of your own view. in case his vertex in my moon and ascendant *. You can gather the tone of the marriage based on the planets involved and the sign that theyre in. I am sorry. Not eros. I just never have, not that it is not good. Her NN on his 7th makes me think its a past life hold. Good afternoon, thank you for this article And how did you arrive at the conclusion that Nessus and Dejanira are indicative of abuse? the reason this is the case is that Mars is sexual drive( all drives actually). Is it a similar power to the conjunction? I hope I can do this in my articles. I am not asking you to do mine either. In the conjunction, the planets are next to each other( or on top of each other in the exact conjunction). Great primal connection with fighting lol. Would appreciate some insight!! Thanks for the push in this direction, my Friend. The chart allows one to see oneself. Also, our vertexes are separated only by 7 degrees. You, as the Pluto in the trine with his Sun and venus could kind of see through him lol, Thank you Amy for your reply We are both passionate, but luckily, by nature, not violent people thank God . In these dark, sexual relationships, you feel the raw passion and soul mate connection like no other. Sorry for the late reply. My guess is that it would be an obsessive relationship where both would try to hurt each other? xx. I do Astrology the way that I would want to learn it. If you know, let me know! Welcome, Ariel and great questions. Does that fit and I applaud your willingness to face yourself. Chiron conj the Sun is not sexy. I often see this aspect in the charts of couples who have been married for many years. I suppose you have choice on whether to act on it. The flip side is that when it ends( and it usually does) you could go to jail for homicide. It takes me several hours so I could not do it here. Pluto trine Venus, Venus quincunx Pluto What if a man has Dejanira conjunct a womans Sun? And my dejanira conjunct his Venus. What significance would you place on someones Juno conjunct my vertex, south node as well as very-widely conjunct my sun (same sign). The Lilith person brings sexual energy that is literally untamed. I appreciate your thoughts on these aspects but I am concerned when any astrologer singles out specific aspects and makes sweeping judgements about charts and how the energies in that chart will be made manifest. My Dejanira is in 5 Sag, like his North Node. Their capacity for intimacy and shared desire to melt into the fires of transformation is nothing short of total risk, which each are compelled to take- no questions asked. Eros Conjunct the Midheaven: This synastry aspect will be quite powerful for both parties since it will impact the way that the world views them. I know this came off a bit more forward, but only because I want to make it clear that one persons feelings are not fact. To be honest, few people overcome Nessus. Thank you, Amiann. How do you relate to all the men who have their Pluto there? I ve met a man who have his mars = my moon (1) in taurus and square my uranus (2) in aquarius. Lilith person helps Ceres person find their power and authenticity. This will be HOT. Eros represents what turns us on. Lilith-Mars Aspects in Synastry (conjunction, sextile, trine, opposition, square) Lilith-Mars aspects are all about clash of desires. With mercury and Uranus in Scorpio. No point living in fear for aspects that may not play out. Knowing more. I just got into astrology a month ago and find it fascinating. Great questions. If other aspects and planets in the chart point to marriage, then it was probably a romantic, attractive marriage where the couple did not see each other all day, did not share a bedroom, had a large household staff, lived apart, etc. They made my day, Jeanie. Check house placement and aspects to further your .
As I see more pieces, I think my awareness shifts, and I do feel like that makes a difference. You may be fated to marry. I think theres a trine or sextile to other asteroids but nothing major. Ami, Christian Psychic Readings & Astrology Charts for All Faiths. YOU are the most important person to me. Im trying really, really hard not to jump to conclusions, so any help or advice you could give would be very much appreciated. Conjunctions, oppositions, and trines are best. Ceres person appreciates this, as they typically focus more on caregiving than on their own inner desires. The same with nessus conjunct ASC? I am very genuine towards others and fairness is must priority in all circumstances including my own critic.hate violence and abuse and stand up against it. It wasn't enough for me to have sex with him though. Well, we have a Sun (me) trine Pluto and a Pluto (me) conjunct his sun, Thank you so much for the reply and sorry for the late reply, Ive just seen it xx My moon is in Sagittarius and his in cancer, so that always worries me , He has pluto at 27 Virgo with my sun at 11 Virgo. What I've read about Lilith makes it seem to me that she's sort of like the Feminine's Pluto with lots of primal sexual urges thrown in, so I'm sure she rooted herself comfortably into your already heavily Plutonic relationships. If they are conjunct in synastry, a soul mate connection is indicated. . In order to post comments, please make sure JavaScript and Cookies are enabled, and reload the page. Most potent are Eros-Venus, Eros-Ascendant, Eros-Psyche, and Eros-Mars links. Lovely and very filled with passion! I dont really understand the aspect you are asking about. If you want to end it, be upfront and be kind. The issue is that me disagreeing with you being fatalistic (because what you say is not what always happens, not even 60% of the time because I have nessus/dejanira aspects with most people that are close to me, and I have never been abused or attacked in any of those relationships) does not mean that Im not accepting the truth. Telling people that something will happen to them because of an aspect is what you in particular FEEL is going to happen, but that is not the truth. Eros wants intense encounters that lead to lasting transformation. Love,
Why dont you put up your chart in my Forum and ask your question again. It is a pleasure to be here. Nessus is the abusers asteroid. This can indicate marriage, but it can also indicate a long-term romantic or sexual relationship. I've found that the Eros person has a "crush" on the planet person. OkI really cant comment on the sign, per se. You can think that Im mad that what youre saying is real all you want, but the only thing that bothered me is your fatalistic outlook and claim of truth that is actually not real. With asteroids, I would accept a 3 degree conjunction, tops. I would say no, but I am not the last word in anything. If you see any intense conjunctions between the Sun, the Moon, Juno, the South Node, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Lilith, etc. Crow Symbolism: Spiritual Meaning Of The Crow, 6 Effective Studying Spells For Exams, Class, & Enhanced Focus, Winter Solstice & Yule: Rituals, Traditions, And Ways To Celebrate. . (Conjunction, Opposition, Trine, Sextile, Square! All of astrology is neutral. Once awakened, no matter how untamed the experience becomes, we are given a rare opportunity to integrate, redeem and restore Eros and Lilith to a place of honor through shared, transcendental sexual activity. That is the nature of the DSC. It is desire, it is passion and love. This relationship can be really passionate, fiery, and exciting. But I do see this possibly helping people with many bad aspects that could show any possibility of abuse in their own chart already whom have actually been through anything so that this can help them feel validated about past or current pains, but its not good to deem things as going to play out in time just because they havent yet in a long standing, healthy relationship. Things were so passionate that we were bankrupting ourselves on planet tickets, so after a whirlwind 4 month courtship I quit my job and moved in with him- on the other side of the country. I do charts for the people who want them. Connections between the Vertex and the lunar nodes are also indicators of past life in synastry. About Nessus/BML, I would watch it. Thank you, Kay <3 and DW : womans Nessus (13 Gemini) opposite mans Juno ( 12 Sag). Lilith on the ic is one of the more potent lilith synastry to have even in the composite. Eros contacts in synastry have been touted as creating attraction that cannot be denied. Retro makes one thoughtful, so I do not see it as bad as many do. For example, I am the moon person and my mars also falls in his 8th and much of what you described for moon/pluto conjunction sounds like us. Eros isnt making any connections to either Dejanira or Nessus though. What would that mean? In Roman mythology, Eros was known as Cupid. I've never had a more natural and effortless sexual connection to someone in my life, and it blinded me to a lot of things. To summarize, I would say that Mars/Pluto could be passionate sex and passionate emotions but no soul.If a chart had no Moon aspects and Mars/Pluto aspects, I would say it would be a fling. Thats fatalistic and leaves the image that the entire rest of the charts and people themselves are completely victim to two asteroids that are being portrayed as always playing out when they really do not always do so. Thank you for this information! Deep soul love, incredibly painful at times. She has never treated me as less than, and she is extremely giving. For teaching purposes, one must break things down, so it may seem like it is contrary but it is really not, imo, Sandy. Your analysis is lovely. His natal mars, lilith, pluto conjunction is conjunct my ic and I've distanced myself from him knowing that he has wayyyy too much power over me, but every time I see him I can barely stand and immediately start shaking I am glad my post was helpful! There are millions of possible outcomes, and none should be claimed as the truth. Posts: 376From: Western Massachusetts, USRegistered: May 2009. 4) Conjunctions to the Axis/Angles = very strong bond. Thanks! Again, telling people to get out of or stay out of relationships with an aspect that you in particular think will cause them harm is not healing in any aspect of the word. Hardly. I'm really only just starting to get to know Eros well, and Lilith is still somewhat elusive. His dejanira is conjunct with my sun. If an asteroid is conjunct an angle or a planet, placed in a prominent position, or stands out because of some other reason, it can provide an additional layer of insight in chart analysis. In this video we will discuss the aspects between #Sun and #Eros in a synastry chart in Mix - Eros and Sun in Synastry! , Not a sag actually, but a virgo with tons of leo in her chart, lol. If you want to ask me a simpler question, I am game! One other thing that might be helpful with this asteroid pairing, and one that I think is quite meaningful. There are many past life synastry charts that dont show marriage through these 5 obvious aspects, but its clear from reading the whole chart that the pair had a significant relationship in a past life. Asteroids and aspects do not control people. The conjunction is excact. I know it is not funny but the charts will play out, in my experience, anyway.