Pastor Robert Coy, the former Las Vegas casino entertainment director turned religious leader for one of Florida's biggest megachurches, has been accused of molesting a 4-year-old girl. I am crystal clear on everything you have told me and havent told me anything I didnt already know. Michael- The attacks you are receiving remind me of the attacks I got when I was at that church attempting to do good. The consequences suffered by the fallen leader will be very instrumental to how the sheep, who are in this flock, respond when faced with their own similar temptations. It works so it is a kind of method of delivery now. How is this furthering the kingdom? 2014 On April 3, 2014, Coy resigned as Senior Pastor of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, after admitting to committing adultery and having an addiction to pornography. What do you disagree with Luther on, just for the sake of argument? People have gifts, given by God apt to speak is one of them. Why so disrespectful? Coy Gibbs was a retired American NASCAR driver, and he was an entrepreneur also. Jesus,Jesus, Jesus.in everything Ive read, not one has acknowledged that He died for this very reasonEVERYONE OF US IS GUILTY. Youre just twisting Acts 2. Well, thats simply not true either and not quantifiable. No Im not CC? Why else would Mrs. Coy leave? Here is what Acts 2 does to your literal 1,000 yrs. etc. This isnt about me, and by making it about me, you bear false witness and sin yourself. Adultery is a common thread throughout the 66 books. http://www.openbible.info/topics/election. He is a human that, if I may point out, has transformed MANY MANY MANY lives over several years and has grown CCFL into an amazing place of worship. He who is true God became true man united in one Person forever. Seven times seven. Please, keep the balance and consider your own sins and the grace that is undeserving, (undeserved favor) has been extended to all of us. Wow I did not know there were so many perfect people in the world. Other than him, hopefully we have not acted on it but we are all the same in Gods eyes. I understand your hearts pain and I presume you are a single young woman so the thought of a man or woman in the ministry falling is very disheartening to say the least. I know of huge churches that do teach the Bible, and arent funny at all, and they still have a large attendance. It sure seemed to confuse many when he was with Greg and Chuck at the Harvest Crusade and was present at Chucks memorial. What does numbers have to do with anything? You will never be forgotten! Our reach is vast and includes TV programming, radio broadcast, video blog, podcast, digital music, and social media or print publishing resources. It scares me when I read he should still be the pastor. One adversary is seduction. I had a CCer proclaim on the other blog one time, Chuck would NEVER lie!, and I commented, wow, thats amazingyou mean Chuck Smith is perfect now like Jesus and hes never lied since he became saved? I cant agree with this statement at all. His daughter, Janette Manderson, and his widow, Kay, sued the organization, alleging its leaders conspired to take over Smith's empire and even denied him emergency medical care on his deathbed. We are called to love and forgive. This is not uncommon among men. If youre so incredibly stupid as to think Id print something that inflammatory without proof, I really cant help you. So where do you attend church? I showed that everything in Rev 20:1-6 was symbolic and figurative (angels dont have hands to carry a real chain to bind a spiritual being. The reformed/protestant groups picked up on it, since they were catholics and knew nothing else. Big difference. They have chosen not to broadcast the family meeting about this matter from Ft. Lauderdale. Youve turned the sad reality of sin into flaming arrows of hate and spite towards eachother instead of being Christ-like and loving the sinner (everyone). If I were in sin, my church would handle it and those who needed to know would know. It will be interesting in this post-Coy(tal) era to learn the truth as it comes out. It is difficult to go to church and see this level of temptation going on. Why is same-sex marriage an issue in the election of the new Scottish First Minister? I dont think so! Megachurch Founder Bob Coy Accused of Molesting 4-Y-O, Sexually Abusing The problem here is, that you are a skeptic, period. Also keep in mind that many here have something in common and that is bad experiences with churches and pastors, while some of us remain to try and minister and fellowship, as well as listen and empathize, with those hurts. It seems like it must be bad because for a simple dalliance it usually goes unnoticed. Itll continue, itll just be a lot smaller taking in a lot less money than pre-moral failure, 807 you never proved anything that you claimed which is rumoured to be false. Smith was among the first pastors to make a startling discovery: Many of the hippies and disaffected youth who'd come for the Summer of Love had realized psychedelic drugs and the Grateful Dead weren't filling the holes in their lives. Florida Megachurch Pastor Resigns Due To 'Moral Failure'. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they teach., And also with Paul who said in Phil 1:15-18. Youre saying he was fired which is inaccurate. Net Worth of Coy Gibbs-After the death of Coy, the citizens are sincerely interested to know about his net worth and constantly search on the internet. Wow, Michael does have some standards, so thats what it takes, not gossip and slander and outright fabrications, but some foul language to wrap up the crap thats being dished out here! Derek I blame cheating not on power and authority but on mans dual nature and non-transformed salvation. ``I said, `Daddy, no, no, no, no.. He was forced to resign. If they see him go to the offended and attempt reconciliationregardless of their response to himand maintain a gracious patience with those offended. He ran gay-conversion groups and preached that all nonbelievers would go to Hell. Trolling for a controversial reaction Flynn? Especially when you twist the truth and cannot backup your allegations. Im what you call a baby Christian. Im not doubting your passion for your convictions. Too much too soon. Was he ever wrong? It is a full cycle of seasons, as it is passing over him. #805 yeah considering that all of MIchaels info is inaccurate. I have had pets with more emotional and spiritual maturity than you. Its not slander to point out severe doctrinal errors. I personally believe that when more people with big bucks started attending, things really changed. Amid that legal battle, the movement essentially split in half shortly after Smith's death. At that time the services were also being displayed live. In July, Roshad Thomas, a 41-year-old former volunteer youth pastor at Calvary Chapel Tallahassee, was arrested after he was accused of molesting at least 10 children aged 13 to 16 over several years, with victims including members of the youth group he led. There are MANY CC satellite churches in this whole region, all 3 counties, that beam him in via video for Sunday services all of them depend on BCs teaching and preaching. Its a constant throughout human history. I have always been amazed I wouldnt know how to tell a dirty joke or swear in front of a strange woman. When Smith burnt people down like this they never came back. This is all speculation and I dont think MacArthur should do this kind of thing. You probably dont want to go there with me, as I may know more than you want to hear. Its interesting Michael has yet to answer the question about his own sins. In 2017, he was accused of sexually abusing a four-year-old girl. I did the change the headline to removed so as not to get caught up in ridiculous minutia. I had not heard it before today and I am glad I did. Nothing special about me, only the strength the Lord provided. He was already richI. What I know of Jesus was a reference to this blog in a news report, so I came to read it and all I read are hypocritical wolves tearing at the wounded, self righteous people looking down their noses at others, so if this is Christianity I would rather be with those who are honest and forthright, and theyre not on this blog! Michael, one of the best messages I heard was when you posted Bob Sweats message on this topic. Is there anything you disagree with him upon? Boyd Coddington (August 28, 1944 February 27, 2008)[1] was an American hot rod designer, the owner of the Boyd Coddington Hot Rod Shop, and star of American Hot Rod on TLC. Many comments by those who attend CCFL. I would not want to be the substitute teacher tomorrow morning. Am I hearing that part of fundraising project plan involved Bob and his wife putting a price on the biblical practice ( and requirement for elders) of hospitality, charging people to have dinner or lunch with them. MLD? This is where the church will be tested, was it Bob Coys church or the Lords church? Those that think me wrong for doing so, should set the example for me, and let it go. Social Media Links-Reddit Facebook. Power corrupts. I wish I could be more positive, but we are living in the last days when there will be a great falling away from the faith, which the Lord has prepared us to expect before He returns. Hes probably dirtier than Pastor Bob. For its His word that does not come back void, but it shall accomplish the purpose for which He sends it!. Lusting, stealing, cursing, etc. We have an enemy and it is not Pastor Bob. Lets wait and see how many women he defiled. and join the scoffers and Mockers, then you will know that Im not speaking Gods word to you! So Coy gets the pass because it is normal and I get the ridicule. The New Jersey-based folk-rock band Driftwood is still a few hours from taking the stage, and a handful of early arrivals sip beer and laugh over the canned blues soundtrack. In other words, on any given day what looks like a bunch of anonymous posts are actually not. Diane Schuler Case | Wrong Way Crash Kills 8 Jay is 4 Justice Podcast 87.9K subscribers Join Subscribe 243 Share 8.7K views 1 year ago #dianeschuler. Im not one to split hairs but The first meeting place for CC was in a funeral home behind Albertsons in FT Lauderdale, now it is true they moved for a bunch of years to Pompano but only with temporary zoning variances off Gateway but were deigned permission to a become permanent church location, therefore they never settled there. Opinion: I've been on the field for two football tragedies. I hope Arent you embarrassed by what comes out of your brain? I did not make Bob Coy have sex with women other than his wife. Michael, the thing is that MacArthur isnt here. [10] Boy do you have to stretch to believe this stuff. Unless you are being slanderous libel and defamation of character. Diane Schuler, her daughter Erin, and her three nieces also died in the crash. Sin is sin. Anonymous? MLD, I think the Whittenburg door is blocking your ability to understand scripture, Jesus said, do this in memory of me in John 6 when he spoke to them of eating his flesh and drinking his blood, he told them after the crowds left that he was speaking to them spiritually! He was the Passover lamb that they would be internalizing when he died on the cross for their sins! From that inner circle of men trying to navigate this atrocityI really doubt they want everyone they have shared Christ with for years to hear the details about their beloved pastor???? Accountability measures and shared power help mitigate both temptation and abusesin government and religion. Ya because he has 20k followers that he lies to daily. But this situation hurts my heart so much. Coy Gibbs: Cause of death| What happened to| How did die We all have our personal emotional responses, but scripture should always be our guide and it certainly is not silent in how to deal with such situations. This moral failing must be big and bad or its disclosure is an attempt to try to avoid something worse. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months. Some are called to a higher level and accountability, and how much more do they need our prayer and support? RiBo, A man posted yesterday on FB that something like 40% of pastors struggle with some sort of sexual sin. No thats not a fulfillment of prophecy, that was just those pesky Zionists, who made that happen, no it wasnt God fulfilling his word and the prophecies in the O.T concerning Israel. As Chris Rock once said, A man is as faithful as his options. Coy sales millions and that has all changed. So good to hear from Diane Coy as - Good News Media Group - Facebook Dont worry I will come to you to bring my condolences! Mark, are you kidding? You have brothers and sisters in the world that are not able to mention their faith without fear of loosing their freedom or life. I dont find that in the NT you will need to show me. The danger with the Calvary Chapel transformation Gospel is that it makes your walk and your fruit the evidence of your official saved-ness. Hope you stick around. BTW, you might want to be a bit more cautious with the word prognosis, or at least become more informed to the breadth of its meaning. The reason for Satans binding is clear so that he might not deceive the nations any longer,. Not one of us is perfect, which is why we are to put our faith in the Lord, not in man. To Andy (#652), Good points. All Rights Reserved. Which is typical of todays modern quick moving world! Humiliation breeds humility. MLD Daniel 4: Vs 16 Seven times pass over him A time may logically be thought of as a year considering that a year is a natural time unit, the longest one. "These guys have been covering for Coy for a long time," Newnham says, "and they're still covering for him now." There is more going on at this church than just this infidelity. He was telling them that real actions in the Christian life work on your spirit. In the days of the 6 channels that some of us remember, the temptation did not exist as it does today. The woman told him "she had an experience with God and has found forgiveness" for Coy over his abuse. WHAT HAPPENED THAT YOURE STILL SINGLE, DO YOU STRUGGLE WITH SEXUAL ATTRACTION TOWARDS THE SAME SEX, OR ARE YOU TRULY A EUNUCH FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD? TV ACUTE is a full entertainment site where you find tv series related press releases , promotional photos tv news and movie updates. When did I ever mention Bob Coy? I could see being gracious to a guy who practiced and modeled it and was truly privatebut the fact is Coy was a big time celebrity (and probably will be again) and he had a broad congregation and broad viewershipand its probably right to let everyone know what happenedwhich as usual the blogs are standing in the accountability gap. doctrine like eschatology comes up, they all come out with very strong verbiage? I personally experienced an unfaithful fianc prior to the wedding and she was very involved in the church so I can sympathize as well as empathize on this issue. How come pastor fidel gomez has not appeared since Bob Coy resigned? I do just fine praying for myself. 3rd, there is a difference between millennialism and dispesationalism . Its hard for these followers of men to part with their pastorkings. Agree with BDs #775. Unlike many Protestant churches, which set up powerful boards of elders to oversee ministers, Calvary used a management style Smith called the "Moses method. I think they need to clean house in order to restore confidence. PS Connie and Ashleigh (Pastors Gregs wife) have been afflicted with cancer I will ask you all to hold them in prayer this month please. Though we may seem callous about what has transpired, that could not be further from the truth. Want it to stop. BE TRUTHFUL AND HONEST, OR YOULL NEVER EXPERIENCE TRUE HEALING! I will be giving more information as it is vetted. Can you please point me to the confession of these women? Now either dialogue with respect or go back to selling bridges to imaginary Calvinists. Megachurch Pastor Bob Coy abruptly resigned Sunday afternoon, ending his 30-year leadership at one of the largest churches in the country. They also had a singer who wore tight jeans that may not have been by todays standards showy, but her mannerisms drew attention and I would look at the men in the audience and see all their eyes were on her- and I am sure she knew it. If they are true, there is a greater problem than Bob Coys moral failure. I knew his daughter, he was a good dad. All folks pretty much have a good sense of right and wrong whether or not they are saved by an evangelical gospel construct. The problem is that he is human. Many of the next generation of customizers started their career with Coddington. I pray that his marriage survives, and his children will forgive him. Calvinism is not an eschatology though Calvinists tend to be almost anything other than pretrib premillennialists. Unfortunately dont think he should ever be restored to ministry. I think that is the only thing I have understood you say in days. Thats what I love about Calvinist preterists, and that is that they are consistent, in denying the literal aspects of scripture and have to do exegetical gymnastics and use pretzel logic to try to prove their conclusions that the Bible does not mean what it says, and says what it means, so when it says that there will be a 1000 year reign of Christ, it doesnt really mean a 1000 year reign, but its symbolic, in fact we are already in the millennium, in fact the lamb is lying with the lion, its to be taken spiritually, (I had one preterist tell me that his cat and his parakeet were getting along and played together and that that was proof for him that we were in the millennium), and Satan is chained up right now (yeah right! Im praying for your kids tonight. Lorenzo, http://thisisnthappiness.com/post/80893448288/log-out. HAVE YOU EVER VIEWED PORNOGRAPHY IN YOUR OVER 30 YEARS OF MARRIAGE? It will take much longer possible years for healing with his family but it is worth it and will take work. Back to our topic But your logic is skewed. awesome. Who ever got that car? And when some were gone like that in recent years, it was probably said, they were troublemakers, or, they didnt respect the work of God, and so on and so on. Not only has she been publicly shamed, in front of her friends, family and all whom she held dear, but she has been shamed by a husband who found her lacking and inadequate. Is it all false because he fell short. Confession is step one. In fact, I personally believe in a good and loving God who will forgive all his enemies in the endof which we are all enemies of God as well as his children. what is your motive for this? Thank you for the correction. Bob Coy is fortunate because his sin was found out. Many get off drugs w/o evangelical christianity, many turn themselves around from alcohol or gambling or other vices w/o evangelical christianity. The inner circle or big givers got to have dinner with DC and BC. Clearly some felt the news should come out right away rather than one last sunday morning coverup cum offering and they made sure that is exactly what happened. The internet and increased availability of sexual content, both in the explosion of adult entertainment and media in general has really opened the door to men (and boys and women and girls) to be exposed to so much. ", Like Smith, though, Coy used his relaxed persona to sell a deeply conservative brand of Christianity. The interpretation is right there in the text he is telling the listeners that they are witnessing that very event.. You can keep attacking Luther it doesnt phase me one bit. I like to know everyones sin here and blog about it. Bob and family obviously dont want to face any more humiliation. So crazy that I became addicted to cocaine.". Frank, are you cool with Calvary Chapel pastors judging those outside their church who are gay and want to get married? At one time I clearly remember the address was Pompano Beach but maybe that was at the gateway location. Mark Davis and Clay Hecocks wives were very good friends and I am sure together decided enough was enough from what they knew. Had not thought of that. She subsequently said she does not want the abuse made public and even asked for the record to be destroyed, though she was informed that that would be against the law. What do you wish to accomplish with this? So they began to buy out failing churches in the area and use large screens. The fig tree was a representation of the leadership in Jerusalem and what did Jesus say to it when it had no fruit? Yes, I had to come clean and it was a struggle. Early life, education and early career. Good for you. Bob is an example of what God can do with a man open to His correction. According to numerous sources and documents we have obtained, Coy has already been dismissed by his board. Adultery creates a ripple effect that grows outward and touches so many lives not just the two involved and it takes two willing participants to maintain. The founder's son-in-law, Brian Brodersen, left the network of Calvary churches and started his own organization with many of the chapels, including Coy's old church in Fort Lauderdale. I mentioned any fallen brother I dont care who it is, your Pharisaical attitude is what I condemn that emanates from your self righteous hypocritical stance that shows through once again as you try to put me in your box, sorry I dont dance your tune or fit into your little box! Read some of the reporting from the time. Some knew that the building that was built for the H.S. Krent, My name is Allan Adams. I admit that I sin regularly yet there has been a transformation that has taken place within me. Is Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel still living? I too had moral failure well after I stepped away from staff. 30 Being therefore a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him that he would set one of his descendants on his throne, 31 he foresaw and spoke about the resurrection of the Christ, that he was not abandoned to Hades, nor did his flesh see corruption. As it is biblical to do so. 2016) Family; Parents: Not Available: Wife: Diane Coy (m. 1984, div. Thank you for the many years you have pastored Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, through your words and Gods grace my husband got saved. You are correct. I hope they reconsider that vision in light of his failure. Krent W, what was the one condition Jesus allowed for a divorce? Thanks. I suspect the local media in Florida will be all over this as things unfold. Its their soft term for adultery. What a disappointment especially as I know many who have thought well of him. Do you worship Jesus as God incarnate, The Lord, The Creator, The Giver of Life? my point exactly. There was a time many years ago that many good families were leaving. is the 1000 years? MLD, no point in debating anything with you. And if not, then the best thing is to keep your lying mouth shut! I think I would be interested in other perspectives that the truth is part of the healing process. I actually have a lot of experience in having to deal with unwanted attention from married men both at work and at church. I am Michaels friend and have known him for several years now. When that sold well, on the spur of the moment they added another day. Be careful, any of us could be next. There is a reason God forgives us. He threw away everything, his family, his vows, his integrity, his reputation is forever damaged..why??? OK, so now that is past, the claim is the church should have been told first. Great article to consider: http://touch.sun-sentinel.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-79853971/, The only ones that are monogamous are the ones who have no choice because theyre either too old, too fat or too ugly or too poor. Actually God assigned me to the task since that is the ministry He called me to. Sad. MLD, no point in debating anything with you. Lorenzo, My lying mouth? What are my options if the operation goes wrong? But just as a reminder, within that 2000 years is some good, and some very bad. Barbara. Can you say Jimmy Swaggart? The difference is: Peter had a one-time crisis of faith that was immediately repented of and perhaps more permanently cured by the Resurrection. Dispensationalism was unheard of until the 1800s. I am deeply stunned, sickened, hurt and devastated about this news. She confirmed the story in stomach-churning detail. Even her real son couldnt muster any rage. "I was really hurt. The most serious claim against Calvary's national church came in 2011, when four men in Idaho filed a federal suit alleging a youth minister named Anthony Iglesias had molested them between 2000 and 2003. #RealLove. I would imagine if Chuck Smith were around he would probably have Coy restored in about 3 months. Restoration is step three. BTW I was present at that city commission meeting. That's not good enough, critics say. Pray for Bob in this very dark hour for many. Thanks for your words. What was Jesus thinking!? Antonio- its not pertinent to dwell on the sin itself and bring out every lurid detail of that sin for your viewing pleasure and for you to dwell in. Why do people keep blaming satan and setting up some evil master plan against God? Your turn. And in this case the best may not be for Bob to return to active ministry. I know the solution is to get right with many people that were hurt. It is a pretty open forum with some troubled and offensive types, but also many who have learned through experience to get things into perspective. One of the women confided in her friend, and her friend confessed to another high profile pastor in the area that had a friendship with Coy. View the profiles of people named Diane Coy. You dont have any morals.your life is a lie. I dont think Ive ever seen this happen quite so quickly. It could very well be that Coy had them take his stuff down, not the other way around. Diane Coy is scheduled to speak at womans conference in ccphilly in a couple of weeks. As I said yesterday, I am sure he looked with great anticipation for each encounter rolling it around in his mind. And I also said that I would not give him the keys to another church. Facebook gives people the power to share. As I made comment on those who did, others jumpe in and made each a Luther discussion. He's an engaging storyteller "somewhere between Billy Graham and Billy Crystal," the Miami Herald once suggested with an easy laugh and a voice that excitedly rises into high nasal registers. well then go ahead by all means please cast the first stone. He wasnt in any shape to give up a kidney anytime soon, so Jake was his best option. Pastor Bob will be focusing his full attention on his personal relationship with God and with his family. Give Mercy and you will find mercy ! Did you commit adultery with them? The sexual assault claims, which have never before been divulged, raise new questions about the pastor, his church, and the police who handled the case.